Sex After the Ex
Dear readers,
The following is a guest post I wrote for one of my very favorite blogs, Sex, Lies & Dating in the City. This blog is awesome and I love following Simone’s dating experiences and hearing her thoughts on love, relationships and life in general. She also has a really interesting section called A Guy’s Story where you can read posts from men about what they think about dating. Very informative stuff (scary sometimes, too). When Simone asked me to write a guest post for her blog, I was really flattered and decided to use the opportunity to take on a subject that I haven’t really written about before. That said, this post is about sex. If you are my mom, my coworker, a guy I have casually dated, a devout Christian ready to tell me about how premarital sex is a sin (but can you call it premarital if you don’t intend on marrying the guy? Haha …) or someone else who would feel weird talking with me after reading about my sex life, please do not continue. And come back and visit another time. I have no intentions of turning this blog into a place where I painstakingly detail my sexual exploits (although there are a lot of blogs similar to mine that do that, and damn it’s interesting stuff). I do, however, think the following topic is worth broaching and wanted to take the opportunity to write about it. I look forward to hearing what you guys think in the comments. And be sure to check out Sex, Lies & Dating in the City.
Sex after the ex is an act of courage in this world. When is the right time? What will it be like? Am I ready? WHAT DOES IT MEAN!? WHY AM I SCREAMING? Oh, it’s just very stressful.
As a woman, I’ve been socialized to believe that I should really focus on keeping my number low. How else will I survive the “How many people have you slept with?” conversation with a new partner? And why do we feel the need to have that conversation anyway? So, I guard my number. Like the Nano Puppy I had in middle school, I feed it and exercise it. I give my number the love and attention it deserves. And it’s always in the back of my mind. Now, should this be the case? That’s a conversation for another day, but for me, it just is what it is.
When we broke up at the end of April and cancelled our July wedding, my ex and I had been together almost seven years. Seven years, since I was 18. So as you can imagine, I haven’t “taken many lovers.” I haven’t had many “gentlemen callers.” I just didn’t have the opportunity. Being single again at the age of 25, I feel a little at a loss of what to do. I feel like in some ways, I lack a sexual maturity that I should have by this age. I feel this urge to read Cosmo for hours and ask all my friends what you are supposed to do regarding sex in a relationship. How many dates before you are “allowed” to sleep together? When do you have the contraception conversation? How should sex be initiated? What if he’s no good? What if I’m no good? I’ve never really had the chance to learn or experience these things in the past. And there was a big part of me that realized, I mean really realized, that sleeping with someone would be the final nail in the coffin that was my relationship. With each first date, with each first kiss and with each time I developed feelings for another man, I was one step further from my ex. And this was a big step.
Then, there are the logistics. We all have things about our bodies we don’t like, so I would prefer the first time I am with a guy for it to be dark. And by dark, I mean pitch black. I mean I want it to be midnight and the power goes out in the whole city, so there are no lights anywhere. That dark. Just for the first time. After that, the stress goes down quite a bit. For the first time with a guy, I want to have shaved my legs. I want to be wearing matching undergarments (not that it will matter much, since it’s so dark). I want to have fresh breath. I want to be ready, prepared.
For me, the first time I was intimate with someone after my ex was scary and exciting, fun and daunting, exactly what I expected and nothing what I expected, all at the same time. I felt certain that having sex with someone other than the man I thought I was going to marry was going to make me cry. I just hoped the water works would be sometime later (when I was alone), not during or immediately after the act itself. I knew that not only was the experience going to be strange, it was likely that I’d be awkward. I don’t believe anyone who says it’s like riding a bicycle.
After weeks of shaving before every date, just in case I was ready and it happened, after weeks of coming close but not all the way, to almost becoming a nun because the whole thing was stressing me out so much, it happened. Early in the morning so the sun was peeking through the windows. I had shaved the previous morning, but the hair had started to grow back and I wasn’t at my smoothest. But it happened and it was good. Not scary or sad. And I didn’t cry. Not during, not after. Not even later, although I did feel strangely for about a week after.
I didn’t know how to tell anyone. I wanted to tell my friend but the only thing I could think to say was, “He bought me flowers. So I slept with him.” I don’t know why that statement even came out of my mouth and laughed very hard when I said it. It was as though I felt like I had to give a reason why I slept with him after dating him for at least a solid month. I had met the six-to-eight date requirement all my friends mentioned. But I still felt like I had to make some sort of excuse for myself, give some reason for the fact that my number had increased with someone with which I wasn’t even in a committed relationship.
Now is the fun part. This is the part where I get to feel the emotions of what it’s like to be intimate with a new person. The excitements, learning about what the other person likes, helping them learn about me. This is when you get to really experience another person. This is the best part, and at times the most confusing part, because for some people, maybe most people, but certainly for me, sex changes things. And so what, now my number has increased. It’s time to enjoy it.


It DOES feel strange , but I think that feeling is liberation! Love your blog
Liberation! That’s a great point, it does feel pretty liberating. It’s my body, my decisions, and I want to push back against the double standards of sex between men and women. Thanks for reading and commenting!
It’s really nobody’s business how many people anyone has slept with. I haven’t had this conversation since I was in my mid-20′s and back then, when the number was, ahem, smaller, my answer was “nunya”, as in nunya business. I think that I would actually be offended if I were asked that now. Like you said, it’s my body, my decisions.
One of my friend’s mother once said to her “I don’t want to know anything about your sex life, but I hope that you are having sex, having a lot of it, and that it’s good!”
I agree, but I don’t know how, the conversation just keeps happening! I’m going to take the “nunya” approach next time, I think
. I hope as I get older, the number stops mattering so much, but I find myself really concerned about it (and that’s annoying!). I like what your friend’s mother said. I aspire to be a cool mom like that
. Speaking of moms, here’s hoping my mom is not having a panic attack at today’s post… she sent the blog to a lot of friends, LOL!
Girl please. Get to know and truly love your body and all that worrying about the specifics (including shaving–no really–ask one of my unfortunate formers) is all put the door! Focus on how you feel about you and your partner, and how they make you feel. That’s all that matters. If you rack up some numbers, chalk it up to learning more between the sheets for your next true love!
You are right, Dana. It is about loving your own body… and I’m working on that (always had some self esteem issues, as you know probably more than anyone). So, it’s a hard task to truly love yourself. Thanks for your advice, you are right, I know you are right … but it’s hard to get past this mindset (and double standard) that I have about sex, my number, when I’m “allowed” to have sex, etc. I don’t think that men worry half as much about this as women do! But anyway, this post was my first step on trying to push back against it, hopefully I’ll look back in a couple of years and will laugh at how naive I was.
Thanks for your comment.
A very interesting and true post. A definite must read
Thanks, Randy!
You’re right! It is absolutely time to enjoy it. As long as you’re being safe and responsible, don’t worry about the number. They always say “age is just a number”, so apparently “a number” is nothing to be worried about. Call me anytime you need to vent!
Thanks, Mel! Safe and responsible, that reminded me of an after school “The More You Know” ad
. You are right on. What, age is nothing but a number? I’ve got a lot to learn … I’m an ageist too!! Will definitely call you if I need to vent. Or share salacious details haha!
So where to begin. I have been busy lately and unable to post but I feel so obligated to chime in so here goes.
1. Forget about the number. I mean don’t go crazy and wrack up pornstar numbers. The only numbers conversation should be with your gyno and not the guy you just started dating.Enjoy yourself and your body responsibly. I sound like an ad for alcohol. Don’t forget to buckle up.
A. In honor of forgetting numbers I am now using Letters for my points.
B. It gets easier the farther you get away from the old relationship. Kind of like the first ski trip of the season. Standing on top of that mountain it seems like the worst and craziest thing you could do. But you remember how great skiing was last year. Just make sure you have the right equipment.
C. Don’t worry about being bad. If you haven’t heard this quote then here you go, “Pizza is a lot like sex. When it’s good, it’s really good. When it’s bad, it’s still pretty good.” And I would add that pizza in the morning is good too.
D. Regarding matching undergarments: If he gets to see you and says, ‘Hey you don’t match!’ Then he is probably gay or a salesmen for Victoria’s Secret. Most guys are just happy to get to that point to see you in your underwear and thinking how long before they take it off. You could be wearing your granny panties and it’s still pizza.
E. What good are matching undergarments in the dark? Try a candle for the flickering light. And if he has the candle he’s probably gay.
F. I am glad you didn’t cry. That happened to me once when a woman cried during sex and then called her boyfriend. That was awkward.
G. Men do like smooth legs. But men like sex more than smooth legs. There is a complicated mathmatical formula for this but I have broken it down for you. As long as you aren’t bordering Sasquatch you are ok.
H. Congrats on feeling strange a whole week later. Are we talking good strange?
I. Mental note: Buy more flowers for dates.
I’m done. Just enjoy your life and do what you feel comfortable with doing. You were with the same person for seven years it will take time. Anytime you drive a new car it is bound to feel different and have different features than your old car. And by all means test drive different models. And remember there are some great older models out there too.
Too funny. Your use of analogies is amazing, how long did you brainstorm this??
I have no plans on racking up pornstar numbers. That would be crazytown. Using letters instead could be fun. Good idea!! What are you on, Z? haha jk. Even more fun (and unrelated)? Throwing out caring about numbers all together and sleeping with someone who’s name fits every letter in the alphabet. Aiden, Bob, Carl, Daniel, Edgar, Frank, Greg, Hank, Ian, Jake, Ken, Lance, Matt, Noel, Oscar, Peter, Quinton, Ross, Scott, Tim, Usher, Victor, Walter, Xavier, York, Zach.
Thanks for the reassurance that even bad sex is good sex. Never thought of it that way, but I guess from a guy’s perspective, that is pretty close to the truth. But I have to whole-heartedly disagree on the granny panties. Not hot at all. Not good pizza.
You had a woman cry and then call her boyfriend? That’s nuts!!! You certainly have had some experiences….
On I: Definitely buy flowers. He bought me flowers, so I slept with him. For like a day it was that simple in my mind
I like the test drive analogy. I kinda like new cars though, not classics, so I don’t know if I could get on board with an older model… lol, remember, confessed ageist here!!
Thanks for your advice.
I agree with everyone saying not to worry about the number – it’s such a crappy double-standard and I hope it fades from society over time. Congratulations on your guest post!
Thanks, Matt! It is just a number, and a stupid double-standard. I too hope it fades in time, but it seems to have had quite the staying power so far…
oh my goodness…but as your older sister im like who was it with…when did it happen and oh my gosh. I swear you have a way with words that are indescribable. I swear you should be working on some novel like VC Andrews or something. I love you!
Hey big sis! You’ve been so busy with work you’ve missed so much! LOL, you do have to admit it’s kind of hilarious that you find this stuff out from the blog. Give me a call and you’ll get details
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Thanks for your compliment on my writing. That means so much to me. And I know how much you love you some VC Andrews!! Love you
BAhahah. I remember sneaking VC Andrews books out of the library when i was younger and thinking they were so deliciously scandalous!
OMG! I read them when I was young too. I remember “Flowers in the Attic” was one of my favorite books as a good. Um, incest, sex and murder. Not quite what a young girl should be reading … but a good book nevertheless!
Personally I like recycling, when you have something worth recycling that is, lol!!
Ahhh yes on the recycling. Keeps the number down. Haha
Ok its Mom .. A little hard for me to handle seeing you are a
Virgin and in my eyes still 5 years old.
I love you
Haha, Mom. I am a virgin. This post was just like an April Fools joke.
Love you too!!! More even!
It sounds like your getting over your EX a step at a time! There is nothing wrong with ventureing out there! just remember no glove no love! Take care of yourself
Thanks so much, Ramon! Nothing like contraceptive advice from the local friendly maintenance man
. You are right on, thanks for your comment.
Hi Catherine, it is me Karolyn. I have been reading your blogs for a little while and it is simply amazing the way they pull me in. You have an awesome talent! I am glad you are getting out there and exploring. Enjoy. We only get one shot at this, or so we think, so have some fun. Be safe out there, it is a crazy world.
Thanks, Karolyn. I appreciate your kind words, and thanks for reading! I will be safe, you are right. It’s a crazy world, and there are some definite crazies out there. About the one shot – what’s funny, is I feel like I’ve been given a second shot, and I feel really lucky (and excited) about it. It’s definitely been fun so far and I think it’s only getting better!
Great post – we’ve all been there & can relate. It’s funny but as I get older the more I discriminate on who I chose to get intimate with. As Elaine from Seinfeld would say “Are you sponge worthy?” You have to take the time to enjoy your single days while still being safe & having respect for yourself. Which it sounds like you are doing!
Thank you so much! Haha on the “Are you sponge worthy?” I guess my equivelant has always been “Are you worth increasing my number?” I appreciate your advice and your comment!
Loved the part about taking care of the number like a nano puppy! Hilarious:) -SG
Haha, thank you! Glad somebody got that, I wasn’t sure if the reference would be lost on my readers…
Great stuff! Love your blog! Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Appreciate it!
I’ve been away for a little while, but I’m catching up.
I haven’t had the desire to have the conversation about the number since my very early twenties. It didn’t go well and even at that age realized it didn’t matter. When guys ask that question, I think they are looking for security that “this girl’s not a whore so she won’t hurt me”. fidelity has somehow gotten analagous (i think that’s a word) with a low number of partners.
I say protect yourself physically and emotionally. If you do that the number can’t hurt you.
I say, if a guy asks your number, ask him why he wants to know. His response will tell you a lot about the guy.
Hey Chad, thanks for commenting. This comment really hit home with me. I never even really thought about it, but fidelity has become analogous (yes a word) with a low number of partners in my mind. But that isn’t always the case. Someone may have a low number of partners, and therefore really want to get out there more and would be more likely to cheat. Or, the number of partners may be completely unrelated to the likelihood of cheating. I don’t know. I think I’ll try what you suggested, the next time a guy asks me my number, I’ll ask why he wants to know. I’m interested to hear the response.
Thanks again – you gave me something to think about on this one!
Here’s a counterexample for your theory:
I have an, erm, *friend* whose number is relatively high, possibly, although strangely enough, I never know what the going rate is for girls these days, and she has had one instance of infidelity.
Ha, I have no idea what the going rate is for girls these days either. That would be an interesting stat to know, I think
. Thanks for sharing this counter example
Make sure those matching undergarments are black, I suppose. Just to cover ALL your bases.
I like your blog. Congrats on the fress press.
Thank you! Haha on the black undergarments. Very good suggestion. And, black is slimming.
I’m such a girl…
It’s always good to know there are people out there thinking the same thing and going through the same issues, just with different men. Wow… I used to have this romanticized idea of love and relationships and now I’m beginning to think that that stuff only exist in fairy tales. Oh well, sometimes we just have to let go of the past I guess but you’re right. Sometimes I find myself thinking how weird it is to be with someone else. It’s just unfamiliar territory at first.
Hi Nyain,
Thanks for the comment. I’m glad to know I’m not the only one as well. I think we deserve the stuff that fairytales are made of – but we have to understand that a real relationship is not always going to be a fairytale. You have to take the good with the bad. But it is so weird to be with someone for the first time. About five times in with the same person, suddenly I forgot all the weirdness and began to feel comfortable in sexual situations again. And I’m definitely happy to be in that place now. Best of luck to you!
Very interesting to read your blog and see what you’re going through. I know when I was dating (now married)… I always wanted the girl who had been around the block (both sex and relationships)so I knew when they were with me they weren’t thinking about what they’re missing. Hate to say it but it’s true. I of course had a very high number before marriage and now feel very secure in where I’ve been and where my wife and I are in our relationship. Go have fun, spice up someone’s life and in turn their life upside down with joy… you’ll get it in return.
Hi Tommy, thanks so much for your comment. That’s a good point about a girl having the experience and knowledge that they would absolutely want to be with you and not think about what they were missing. I honestly hadn’t really thought of that too much. Thanks for your advice, I’m on it!! Off to spice someone’s life up….
Great post. I loved your respecting the number and how he bought you flowers so …I tell my young adult sons how important the flowers are – but I’m the mom, so they have to figure it out.
Haha! Yeah maybe you can let your sons figure the flowers out on their own. Why do they work so damn well, anway?? LOL
Thanks for reading and commenting!
i’ve been reading your blog for a few hours. I am touched by your sense of emotion and honesty, I cant stop reading. There are very very very few who would dare breach this territory with the intensity you have.
I think this is why it compels us to respond. I cannot otherwise but want to reach out a hand and say hello. Or touch my head and salute you.
Whoever you are , and wherever you maybe I salute you ! So you have a talent its beautiful and touching because, you capture the things which we cannot say or dont express.
I wish you to continue, and for your all your journeys hope that your spirit continues whatever life brings .
Wow, thanks for committing hours to this blog. Not sure it’s entirely deserving
. I really do appreciate your kind words though – they mean a lot to me. Sometimes it’s hard to put this all out there, so it feels good to know that someone is affected by it and enjoys it. This comment goes down as the nicest comment of all time
. Congrats on that honor! I’m only partially kidding.
So nice to meet you and I look forward to your comments. Thanks for taking the time to get to know my story.
I love your blog! Me and my boyfriend (of 3.5 years) just broke up, so I’ve been reading your blog like crazy. Love your writing.
Hey Stephanie! Thanks for stopping by and for the kind words. Sorry to hear about you and your ex… sending positive thoughts your way. It’ll be OK – promise!!
Thanks for much for this, I had a very similar experience and what you wrote really resonates with me and it’s one of the best things about sex and such that I’ve read so far.
Miss Muffin,
so it means a lot to me that you liked it.
Thank you! I’m glad it resonated with you. It was a little… uncomfortable… to write
I think it’s time to write a post like this again and tell us what you’ve learned since.
Sex is so important. Sexuality is a complicated beast, and I think we ALL need to take the time to recover from the society and sex education that did not tell us just how AWESOME sex is, especially with the right person.
Love this post. I hope you will blog about sex again!
Thanks, Larissa!
Gosh – blogging about sex is really hard for me. With my family and coworkers all avid readers of the blog, sometimes it feels far too personal to put out there. Like, how to do I look the president of my company in the eye during our staff meeting when that day, I wrote all about sex and he saw it on my Facebook page?
But I think you are right, sometimes the fact that sex can be awesome (and not in a shameful or bad way), with the right person is something we don’t talk about enough.
Thanks for the comment and encouragement!
I’ve been reading through all of your blog posts (and absolutely loving them!), so my comment is extremely belated in regards to when you first posted this, but I just HAD to add my two cents!
First off, I’m impressed you were willing to post about this even though your mom reads (and comments!) on your blog! Maybe I’ll be that brave one day…
I went through the exact same feelings when things ended with my ex. He had been the only person I’d had sex with, so the first guy I slept with was kind of my own “F*ck you!” to him, and I shallowly wanted to not have my ex be the only person I had slept with– for some reason it was important that my number was higher than 1. The experience also proved to myself that it was my body, my decision, and it’s okay to feel okay about it (he had a British accent… that was my justification at the time!). And I totally know what you meant by the strange feeling for a week– I grew up with abstinence and “good girls don’t have sex” being drilled into me, so the idea that I could be a mature, sexual woman who could sleep with whomever I wanted and didn’t need to answer to anyone was something I really had to come to terms with. Even to this day, two years later, I still have that nagging voice in the back of my head tsk-tsk’ing me… but then I have an amazing night with a guy and that voice magically shuts up
As women we need to own our sexuality and be unapologetic about the decisions we’ve made. We, as a society, don’t insist that guys answer for how many women they’ve slept with, so why should women have to? As the conversation in the comments went, it’s really no one’s business. As long as he’s “clean,” then you really have nothing to worry about!
Thanks again for being brave enough to post about this! I’m really enjoying your writing and empathizing with almost everything you write about!
Kate,
Thanks so much for this comment. You are so right about how “as women we need to own our sexuality and be unapologetic about the decisions we’ve made.” It’s hard to push the stereotypes and the negative messages related to sex out of our minds, but collectively we need to. Our sexual decisions are no different than mens’ sexual decisions, so we should not be treated any differently. It’s a struggle though, a decades old struggle, but I think we’re finally making strides.
And trust me… writing this stuff about sex is really hard for me. Especially since this is in NO way an anonymous blog!
Best of luck to you reclaiming your sexuality – you have NOTHING to feel bad about!
I randomly stumbled upon your blog when I was looking up for “empowering songs after break-ups” and for the past hour, I’ve been reading entries after entries! There’s something about the way you write that really resonates with how I feel and even though it’s almost like a YEAR ago that you wrote this, I just felt compelled to comment!!
I just recently decided to truly break it off with my ex whom I’ve been with for more than a year…(we dated for half a year and broke up, but got tangled in a “friends with benefit” situation the remaining half year, never really breaking it off because we didn’t want to let go)
As you can probably tell, it was a pretty messy situation…I loved this guy but it wasn’t a healthy relationship. And honestly, it felt scary to venture on…to go back to being single again, to lose the “comforts” on being with someone that you are familiar with.
So thanks for this inspiring blog post…for letting me realize that there are girls out there who feel exactly the same when they embark on the journey of moving on, girls who have the same exact questions…and most of all, reminding me the “fun part” – of experiencing intimacy with a new person
And one more thing, I absolutely salute your bravery in posting this!!! And I can’t believe your mum is reading this too!!!
Keep posting and I’ll keep reading!!!
Alice,
Thank you so much! I know exactly what you mean about holding on too long to your situation with your ex. It’s scary to start over, and it can be even scarier to start over sexually. It’s a big deal to have sex with a new partner, especially if it’s been a while that you’ve become intimate with someone new. Congrats for having the courage to get out of an unhealthy relationship – best of luck to you! I know you’ll find something/someone great. In the meantime, have fun!! Don’t get caught into any guilt trap related to sex.
Thanks for your comment and for reading my blog. I’m really glad you’ve enjoyed it.
Hope my late comments aren’t bothersome, but the whole happening in light/not when you were ~prepared (freshly shaven) is really…beautiful, not to sound too cheesy.
Aww, thank you Danielle! I don’t mind the comments at all. I appreciate your reading.
*sigh.
I remember feeling exactly this way. We had been together for ages, met in our early teens, and when we parted, it kind of felt like the whole world was new. I guess it was.
Then I quickly discovered I was quite talented. And I had absolutely no interest in jumping into another relationship. So I ignored the numbers rule, and the number of dates rule, and all of the society imposed rules of propriety, and I (albeit anonymously) slept with anyone I wanted. I had a sexual bucket list, and I checked off every last item, dammit.
I felt in control. I decided when and if we would have sex. I decided where. How. And sometimes, I just decided to let him “drive”. A year later, my number was… er… significant… but I was also finally in tune with myself. I don’t believe everyone needs to experience this sort of sexual tromp around the town, but it certainly was a lovely ride.
Hipnaughty,
“I don’t believe everyone needs to experience this sort of sexual tromp around the town, but it certainly was a lovely ride.” … Love this. Love that you did whatever you wanted, that’s serious sexual empowerment. It may not be for everyone, but if it feels right to you, I think it’s absolutely great. Thanks for sharing.